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 Post subject: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:59 pm 
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frnds aik bohat mashhoor ghazal

aah ko chie aik umer asar honay tak
kon jeeta hai teri zulf k sir honay tak

masla yah darpesh hai k kuch hazraat nay kaha hai k is ghazal main radeef hony tak ki bajaye hottay tak hai yaani

aah ko chie ik umer asar hottay tak
kon jeeta hai teri zulf k sar hottay tak



ab say yahi poochna tha k agar kisi ko pata ho k reall main kiya hai kion k nisaabi kitabhi honay tak hai.

plz koi meri confusion dorr karay



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:46 am 
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vakkar ji, jahan tak mujhe pata hai ,, ye "honay tak" hai....


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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:04 am 
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Vakkar bhai this is a image copied from Alama Iqbal cyber library, I can't give more authenticated link then this....Hope it serves your purpose....

aur logically hottay tak ka koi tuk nahin banta hai....


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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:05 am 
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Mainay jahan bhi yeh ghazal parhi hai wahan radeef "honay tak" he parha hai... hope that helps.




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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:49 am 
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tabs bhai yah image thik hai authenticated hai
magar meray college main jo ghalib ka deewan para hai us main hottay tak hai to published hai mid 1800s ki.
aur isi liye poocha
us k bad bhi teacher nay bophat si books dikhaayi purani un main hottay tak tha
laikin new jitnay bhi deewwan k edditions a rahay hian un main honay tak hai



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:07 pm 
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vakkar....aapki post perh ke behud herrat hoi k 1800 ka dewaan e ghalib aur us main ''hottay tak'' hae....kisi terhaan usse mehfooz hathun tak pohnch jana chaea...means main ger use chura lon to kia saza lagoo hosakty hae..? :thinking (her khas o aam ke deedar k lia)
main samjhty hun aain mumkin hae essa ho kiyun k lucknow barelvi kanpur main ess terh ki urdu raij thi...
wese mirza ki zindagi main deewan e ghalib ke 5 edition shaya hoe..taba 4th jo ghalib ke aapne moosadiqa mattan pe mabni hae, matba nizami ''kaanpur''se june 1862 main ashaat-pazeir howa , jis main guzishta 4 editions ke moqable main sab se zayadah yani 1802 aashaar hain...noskha e hamidah ka integhaab bhi shamil ker lia jae to total aashaar 2105 hain....
khush rahain :dua



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:53 pm 
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subha ji bohat shukriya aap ka ap nay itni maloomat ata kiii.
ji PAF college MIANWALI ki liberary main hai woh deewan aur kafi mahfooz bhi kion k siwaye teachers k kisi ko issue ni kiya jata aur isi liye humain bhi gussa ata tha hahahah
ji us main hottay tak hai hamray aik prof: sahib hain DR ABDUL GHAFOOR SHAH QASIM sahib unhon nay pahli baar bataya tha k yah hottay tak hai.

ab yahan yahi maloom karna tha agar aap logon k ilm main ho to batiye ga k yah kiya honay tak ghai ya hottay tak hai

tabs ki image bhi thik hai ab daikhtay hain kiya results atay hain



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:37 pm 
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vakkar chaudhry wrote:
subha ji bohat shukriya aap ka ap nay itni maloomat ata kiii.
ji PAF college MIANWALI ki liberary main hai woh deewan aur kafi mahfooz bhi kion k siwaye teachers k kisi ko issue ni kiya jata aur isi liye humain bhi gussa ata tha hahahah
ji us main hottay tak hai hamray aik prof: sahib hain DR ABDUL GHAFOOR SHAH QASIM sahib unhon nay pahli baar bataya tha k yah hottay tak hai.

ab yahan yahi maloom karna tha agar aap logon k ilm main ho to batiye ga k yah kiya honay tak ghai ya hottay tak hai

tabs ki image bhi thik hai ab daikhtay hain kiya results atay hain



Bhai Sb,

Agr hottay tak hai to kya farq parta hai aur agr Honay tak hai to kya farq parta hai ? Mirza Asadullah KhaaN Ghalib Urdu Shairy main ustaad aur wo bhi jaiyyad ustaad ki haisiyat rakhtay hain....."Noon" ya "Tay" se na to wazn main farq parta hai na Behr main..........to phr is k bakhiye udhairnay se kya hasil....

hum honay tak parhtay hain, aap hotay tak parh lain.......na aap ko Sawab na hamain Azaab..........



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:35 am 
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meray bhai aap ka kaha sir ankhon par laikin baat yah k pata to ho k reall cheez kiya hai ainwain apni apni bansuri bajanay say kiya fada yah to mallooom ho na k ghazal ki asal shakal kiya hai yunh to kisi bhi ghazal ka wazn aur behr barkaraar rakh k usay badal diya jaye to kiya accept kar laina chie.

aur jnaab hamaray haan bait baazi main iis baat pay rollay par jatay hain.
to kisii bhi cheez ki asal shakal ka pata hona zaroori hai bhai jaan buus yahi pata karnay k liye yahan aya tha



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 Post subject: Re: KHODA PAHAR NIKLA CHOHA
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:20 pm 
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Ye subject Help on emergency ghalet he
is sawal ka subject hona chahye (Tasheeh)...



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KHUSHBOO,MUHABBET HO HI JATI HE,MONWAVES,DEEWANAH.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:23 pm 
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"...delightful Sorry if anybody mind my interferance..."
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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:44 pm 
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meray khyal se jo log discussion main shamil hain ya nahin hain laikin tehzeeb ka daman hath se nahin chorna chahiye..............kisi ki badtameez hamain is baat ki ijazat nahin deti k hum bhi apnay ikhlaq ko ba'laa e taaq rakh dain....



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
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Tifl e Maktab wrote:
meray khyal se jo log discussion main shamil hain ya nahin hain laikin tehzeeb ka daman hath se nahin chorna chahiye..............kisi ki badtameez hamain is baat ki ijazat nahin deti k hum bhi apnay ikhlaq ko ba'laa e taaq rakh dain....



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ye waheed ki post ka title hia.. shayed aap ne ghor nahi kiya.
aik ban member ko samjha samjha k jab aap thak jaate hian to kabhi thora loud ho jaate hian,, natural hai..
shagufta ko admin ki directions hain k wo inki posts per nazar rakhe.
and she is loyal with her duties and doing her job as per admin's directives.
Please Mods k khilaaf koi complain ho board per na likhen,, Admin and senior Mods are there unhain PM karen jo legitimate action ho ga wo liya jaayega...


please discuss ko continue rakhen :buke:

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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:02 am 
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Thank you sir....



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:39 pm 
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khoda pahar nikla choha ye tu janab urde ka mahawarah hi he koi ghalet bat nahi he aur jo shaguftah ji ne likha he mere bare main I have no objection, bat khatam paisa hazem be happy all of you. thanks.



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 Post subject: Re: help on emergence basis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:13 pm 
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yaar yahan kuch discuss ho raha tha na phir waheed sahib ap ko is tarah discussion ko khraab ni karna chie tha.yahi masla hai ap k sath hamesha hi ghalat jagha ghalat tareekay say interfare kartay hain



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