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Arooj Amjad
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~  Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:01 pm |
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Shehr wrote: Na poch kaisy din guzary hum ne
Shub bher gin gin taray hum ne
Dy gya umer bher ka andhera wo
Jis ki raah me deep jalayae hum ne
Me aksar apni tanhai se pochti hon
Kion banaye kaanch k rishty hum ne
Es trah na luta ho ga aitbar ksi ka
Apni sadgi me jitny fraib khaye hum ne
Jeb be roye hum, roye tanha tanha
Apny ghumkhar sary ap loutae hum ne
Maal.o.zar loutna tu beri baat nae
Daikhy hain khwaishon k b lootary hum ne
Aaj woe saf-e-dushmanaa me nazar aye
Jin k lye dua ko hath uthaye hum ne.. Sehr dear aap kisi aur ki zameen mein likhe karo initially...kyun k agar beher hi theek na ho to islaah nahin possible hoti.saari ghazal ko re-write karna paRta hai.
ab i am giving u a misra here...
Kabhi kabhi jo tujhe yaad karne lagte hain
aap next time iss zameen pe ghazal likh k post karo idhar.Theek hai?
I will try my best to help u out...okay 
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:56 pm |
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I Will Love You Until I Die
I love you...
I can not leave with out you
I can not stop thinking about you
I can love you
I can be with you
I can leave with you
All I’m trying to say is I will love you until I die
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hi
i m shadab alam
i love shairy urdu. im also a shayer.
my full name with takhallus
shadab alam farooqui "aarzoo"
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Arooj Amjad
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:19 pm |
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shadab alam aarzoo wrote: I Will Love You Until I Die
I love you...
I can not leave with out you
I can not stop thinking about you
I can love you
I can be with you
I can leave with you
All I’m trying to say is I will love you until I die English poetry k baare mein main koi baat confidence se nahin keh sakti...iss poem mein bas yehi hai k "leave" theek nain hai yahan "live" hona chahye thats all...
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:24 pm |
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Asalam o alaikum i wrote something.islaah k sath sath ap log agar is ka akhri misra complete karne mein meri help kar dian to i will be very thank full.
Mere dil o paa khakster
Teri zaat hai pakter
Mujhe apni raah mein rol dai
Mere rouyen rouyen ko mol dai
Main gunnahgar,Main be imaan
Mera dil bughz se bhara hua
Mera humsafar hai shetan
Mujhe chappay chappay pey sambhal le
Tera reham mangun mere Khuda!
Mujhe nazr e karam ki bheek dai
mere dil ko mujhe se cheen kar
mujhe duniya se beniaz kar
kar Irada mujhe se bhalaye ka
Dai apne Deen ki samjhe mujhe
Meri duniya o akhrat sunwar dai
Mere seenay mein sakun utar dai
Apni Raah ka bana kr musafir mujh
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last line plzzz
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:15 pm |
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Floral_Venie wrote: Mere dil o paa khakster
Teri zaat hai pakter
Mujhe apni raah mein rol dai
Mere rouyen rouyen ko mol dai
Main gunnahgar,Main be imaan
Mera dil bughz se bhara hua
Mera humsafar hai shetan
Mujhe chappay chappay pey sambhal le
Tera reham mangun mere Khuda!
Mujhe nazr e karam ki bheek dai
mere dil ko mujhe se cheen kar
mujhe duniya se beniaz kar
kar Irada mujhe se bhalaye ka
Dai apne Deen ki samjhe mujhe
Meri duniya o akhrat sunwar dai
Mere seenay mein sakun utar dai
Apni Raah ka bana kr musafir mujh
....................... ? Aoa "Floral-Venie" Ji!
I have gone through your poem.Mere khayal se kuch misroN ki construction theek nahin hai aur kuch baatein adhoori aur un-explained reh rahi hain
ya meaining nahin de raheen ya wo express nahin kar paa raheen jo aap ne kehna chaaha hai.Main ne kuch changes kiye hain aap ki poem mein red mein corrected (/suggestion) likhi hai main ne.Kuch misrN mein lafzon ki addition ki hai kuch mein deletion.Kuch mein lafzoN ki arrangement change ki hai aur kuch misroN ki placement.Kuch misray naye add liye hain jahan kami mehsoos hui.Aap dekh kar bataaein k kya aap ko theek lag raha hai ya nahin aur kisi baat pe
discussion chaahein to wo bhi start kar lein.
(pehle dono misre bilkul Theek nain hain.Replace kar lein plz.Mere zehen mein alfaaz hi nahin aa rahe koi.Allah ki baRaai bayaan karna...Un ki Hamd karna...aasaan nain hai.Har lafz cHoTa lag raha hai.aap khud dekh lijiye k yahan kya munaasib rahe ga.)
Mujhe apni raah mein rol dai
Mere rouyen rouyen ko mol dai
Main gunnahgar,Main be imaan
Mera dil hasad se bhara hua
Mere hum-qadam shaitaan hai
Mujhe har qadam pey sambhal le
Tera reham mangun mere Khuda!
Mujhe bheek nazr-e-karam ki dai
mere dil ko mujh se Tu cheen le
Mujhe koi khwahish bhi na rahe
kar Irada mujh se bhalaye ka
mujhe beniaz jahaaN se kar
Mujhe iss qadar tu shaoor de
K har aik shae ko samajh sakuN
Mere deen o duniya sunwar dai
Mujhe raah-e-haq pe chala k Tu
Mere dil mein chain utaar de
Agar aap ko kisi baat par aitraaz ho ya koi confusion ho to uss par discussion ki ja sakti hai.
Theek?
Regards
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Mujhe maloom hai mera muqaddar tum nahin lekin
Meri taqdeer se cHup kar mujhe ik baar mil jaao!!
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:00 am |
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can any one help me how to write here in urdu ?? i mean i'm trying to copy and paste urdu script from inpage buf false: it giving me like this :
¥¥ œ¢ ’ §¥ ‰’’ œ¥ Š¢“¸ §¥¡ §¥ ƒ’
so kindly guide me how to write here in urdu or add etc .
Regards,
Saleem Raza
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:53 pm |
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razasoomro wrote: can any one help me how to write here in urdu ?? i mean i'm trying to copy and paste urdu script from inpage buf false: it giving me like this :
¥¥ œ¢ ’ §¥ ‰’’ œ¥ Š¢“¸ §¥¡ §¥ ƒ’
so kindly guide me how to write here in urdu or add etc .
Regards,
Saleem Raza Saleem Raza bhai, aap ko aik link de raha hon yahan se software download kar lain ye aap k inpage text ko unicode main convert kar de ga phr aap copy paste k zariye yahan post kar saktay hain... http://urdu-unicode-solution.software.informer.com/hope this will help you..... ےے کونسا ھے احساس کے خوش¸ نھےں ھے پاس
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:09 pm |
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Arooj Amjad wrote: Floral_Venie wrote: Mere dil o paa khakster
Teri zaat hai pakter
Mujhe apni raah mein rol dai
Mere rouyen rouyen ko mol dai
Main gunnahgar,Main be imaan
Mera dil bughz se bhara hua
Mera humsafar hai shetan
Mujhe chappay chappay pey sambhal le
Tera reham mangun mere Khuda!
Mujhe nazr e karam ki bheek dai
mere dil ko mujhe se cheen kar
mujhe duniya se beniaz kar
kar Irada mujhe se bhalaye ka
Dai apne Deen ki samjhe mujhe
Meri duniya o akhrat sunwar dai
Mere seenay mein sakun utar dai
Apni Raah ka bana kr musafir mujh
....................... ? Aoa "Floral-Venie" Ji!
I have gone through your poem.Mere khayal se kuch misroN ki construction theek nahin hai aur kuch baatein adhoori aur un-explained reh rahi hain
ya meaining nahin de raheen ya wo express nahin kar paa raheen jo aap ne kehna chaaha hai.Main ne kuch changes kiye hain aap ki poem mein red mein corrected (/suggestion) likhi hai main ne.Kuch misrN mein lafzon ki addition ki hai kuch mein deletion.Kuch mein lafzoN ki arrangement change ki hai aur kuch misroN ki placement.Kuch misray naye add liye hain jahan kami mehsoos hui.Aap dekh kar bataaein k kya aap ko theek lag raha hai ya nahin aur kisi baat pe
discussion chaahein to wo bhi start kar lein.
(pehle dono misre bilkul Theek nain hain.Replace kar lein plz.Mere zehen mein alfaaz hi nahin aa rahe koi.Allah ki baRaai bayaan karna...Un ki Hamd karna...aasaan nain hai.Har lafz cHoTa lag raha hai.aap khud dekh lijiye k yahan kya munaasib rahe ga.)
Mujhe apni raah mein rol dai
Mere rouyen rouyen ko mol dai
Main gunnahgar,Main be imaan
Mera dil hasad se bhara hua
Mere hum-qadam shaitaan hai
Mujhe har qadam pey sambhal le
Tera reham mangun mere Khuda!
Mujhe bheek nazr-e-karam ki dai
mere dil ko mujh se Tu cheen le
Mujhe koi khwahish bhi na rahe
kar Irada mujh se bhalaye ka
mujhe beniaz jahaaN se kar
Mujhe iss qadar tu shaoor de
K har aik shae ko samajh sakuN
Mere deen o duniya sunwar dai
Mujhe raah-e-haq pe chala k Tu
Mere dil mein chain utaar de
Agar aap ko kisi baat par aitraaz ho ya koi confusion ho to uss par discussion ki ja sakti hai.
Theek?
Regards
Bohat shukriya arooj.you did a good job.i will try my best to improve my poetry.i hope ap aainda bhi rehnumayee farmen gi.thnx again
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:40 am |
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thanks for guideline tabs jee, let me check & update.
Regrds,
Saleem Raza
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:08 am |
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Arooj Amjad wrote: Aoa subahh...aap ki nazm paRhi...concept acha hai lekin wazan k ilaawa lafzon ka istemaal bhi kuch gaRbaR hai...eg."shikasta rishte TooT gaye"..Janab "shikasta" ka to matlab hi yahi hota hai...'TooTa hua'...so TooTay huay rishtay kaise TooT sakte hain dobara?
Maine ye baat aksar note ki hai aap ki aur deegar bohat se memers ki poetry mein.Mera mashwara hai k aap sab simple words istemaal kiya karein ya phir koi lafz uss waqt tak istemaal na kiya karein jab tak uss ka matlab balke uss lafz k tamaam mataalib aap k ilm mein na hon.Main khud lughat paas rakh kar likhti hun.Mujhe kisi lafz k talaffuz ya matlab k baaay mein zara sa bhi doubt ho ya perfect surity na ho...main wo lafz istemaal nahin karti...
Ye mashwara sirf aap k liye nahin balkay sab k liye hai maslan Tabassum ji ne aik jaga aik phrase istemal ki "...dast-e-tamanna ki abla-paai..." dast-e-tamanna ka matlab hua 'khwahish ka haath' aur "aabla-paai" ka matlab hua 'pairoN mein cHaale paRna' so the statement looks wierd.Ab aisa nahin k tabasum ji ko in dono mahaavraat ka matlab pata nahin ho ga...im sure pata ho ga lein likh kar nazr-e-saani nahin ki ho gi.So ye bhi zaroori hai k kuch likh kar aik dafa khud paRh kar confirm kar liya kijiye.
kehne ka maqsad ye hai k aap sab log kahin bhi kisi bhi lafz ka istemaal uss waqt tak na karein jab tak matlab,talaffuz aur istemaal k baaray mein sure na hoN.
Ham sab yahan seekhne sikhaane hi to aaye hain.Ye do important points mere zehn mein aik arsay se thay socha tha DISCUSSION thread mein ja kar kahun gi lein wahan koi visit hi nahin karta so yaheen keh dia.Aur ye tanqeed baraaye tanqeed nahin tanqeed baraaye ISLAAH hai.BAKHUDA kisi ki dil-aazaari maqsood nahin.
Bohat saara khush rahiye.
Allah Hafiz o Nasir
Arooj, aap ne jo kuch bhi farmaya lughvi aitbar se sahi hai, jahan tak aap ne meri tehreer ka hawala diya mjhe yaad nahin main ne ye kahan likha hai, per main is waqt parh k aap ko yaqin dila sakta hon k ye meri typo error hai ye "Dast e Tamanna" nahin bal k "Dasht e Tamanna" hai. dekhain meray naqis khayal se aur jahan tak main ne asataza ko parha hai shairy ista'aroon ka istemal hai, isliye jo lafz batour ista'ara istemal kiya jaye zarori nahin k us ka mafhoom bhi laghvi hi ho. subah ne jo "shikasta rishton" ka lafz istemal kiya hai meray khyal se darust hai, kyun k kuch rishtay, kuch ta'uqat aisay hotay hain k jo bazahir to hotay hain per dilon main un ki jagah nahin degar ye k jab hum "Shikasta Pa" likhtay hain to is k maani ye nahin hotay k tootay huway paon....bal k is k mani hotay hain khasta thakay huway ya zaeef k hotay hain....is tanazur main ager dekhain to subah ka khyal bilkul darust hai. aur phr her shair o adeeb apnay khyal k pas manzer main likhta hai, us ka aik apna hi perpective hota hai, jab k her parhnay walay ka aik alag canvas per ussay dekh raha hota hai. meray khyal se Alfaz k maani darust honay chahiye k wo aap k khyal ki wazahat kar sakain. main ne aisay bohat se ashaar dekhain hain asr e hazr k shu'araa k jis main mani k eitebar se wo lafz qatan fit nahin bethta laikin ista'aray k lehaz se bohat wazeh hota hai. aur jaisay k aap ne farmaya k hum sab hi yahan sekh rahay hain to hum apni ghalatiyon se hi to sekhtay hain.....mera maqsad aap ki raye se ikhtelaf nahin, sirf subah k khyal ki wazahat hai.... umeed hai mehsoos na farmain gi.... Subah aap k liye aik bar phr bohat si daad qabool kijiye...
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:44 am |
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buhat shukria tabs ,
aapki wazahat aur fehm e sukhan se main mutafiq hon....
"shanasai ke shikasta rishte TooT gaye"
yahan mera matlab talouq,rishte,ko shikasta ho ke toot jana esslia kaha hae ke shanasai , talouqaat 'gharab' ho ke toot jaya kerty hae.......shikasta ka matlab GHARAB lia hae ye feeroz ul lughaat new edition main mojood hae....'shikasta haal' yanni gharab haal ,bura haal,...ya 'shikasta baal'' yani kamzour,zaeef,be'bas.....waghera shikasta....ka matlab bhi ess se monsaliq hoke dekha jaega...shikasta rishte.....gharab rishte ,kamzor rishte...shikast-khurdah rishte....ke maani main lia jaega.....
shukria aap sab ka....to bear me in this discussion thread
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:44 am |
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Arooj Amjad wrote: AOA Tabassum Ji and Subahh Ji
Aap ne jis tarha aat k wazaahat ki hai...i understand it now.Waaqei mera iss taraf dheyaan nahin gaya k "shikasta" mahaavratan ya bator "ista'ara" istemaal kiya gaya hai.Maine lughvi ma'noN k havaalay se hi baat ki thi.That's why i mentioned it.
Thankyou aap ne explain kar diya.Mashkoor huN.
Subahh Ji maine bilkul bura nahin manaaya...acha hua wazaahat ho gaee umeed hai k aap ne bhi bua nahin manaaya ho ga. Arooj bohat achi baat hai k aap ne mehsoos nahi farmaya, dar asl aap ghalat nahin thin aap apni jagha 100% sahi thin, laikin aap us tanzur ko nahin dekh pa rahin thin jis tanzur main inhon ne likha tha...bus itni si baat thi.... bohat khush rahiye aur aisay hi hamari sab ki rahnumai farmati rahiye k aap hum sab main Senior hain....
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:15 pm |
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Arooj Amjad wrote: Tabassum Ji
I have edited/deleted all the posts fro here.Agar kisi ne ko baat karni hai to DISCUSSION thread mein kare... Arooj
buhat shukria....jawab dene ka aur bura na mananay ka....main ne bura to nahi manaya...per aapki ghalty ki taraf nishandahi zaroor kerna chahun gee...
firstly....apko mere thread se meri hi post ko delete nahi kerna chaea tha....aur woh bhi tabs G se mukhatib hoke....
secondly....aapko move kerna chaea tha meri explanation ko....DISCUSSION ke thread main....
thirdly aapko na sirf meri balkay apni bhi post yahan move kerni chea thi....ye to tabs ne aapki post yahan copy paste ki to sab ko ....SIKHNAY AUR SAMJHNAY ka mouqa feraham hosaka....
hope you understand my point of view and won't mind my bluntness
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:23 am |
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Maine aap ka thread "clean" karne ki niyat se wo sab wahan delete kiya tha...
Aur meri post coz tabs ji ne yahan quote kar di thi issi liye maine move nahin karaai k wo yahan pehle se mojood hai.
Aur aap ki uss topic se related explanation bhi yahan mojood thi iss liye wo post aap k thread se delete ki..aur yahan move nahin karaai!
And lastly...mujhe yahan Senior Moderator ka Uhdaa diya gaya hai aur "ittefaaq se" mujhe maloom hai k mujhe kya karna chaahiye aur kya nahin...
Bahar-haal mashwaray ka shukria...
LaghzishoN se maavra tu bhi nahin..main bhi nahin!
DonoN insaaN hain khuda tu bhi nahin main bhi nahin
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Post subject: Re: ~:DiSScuSSion:~ Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:07 pm |
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Subah :
Arooj Senior MOD hain aur unhon ne aisa meray hi kehnay per kiya tha, k main ne socha k is sub discussion se aap ki thread ki presentation kharab ho rahi hai....aisay to meray thread main bhi kafi talkhiyan raqm hain aur main khod bhi MOD reh chuka hon per main ne wo delete nahin ki sirf is liye k dosray parhnay walay us se istefada hasil kar sakain. Behr haal mera zatti khyal ye hai k Arooj apnay faraiz bakhoobi anjaam de rahi hain aur is hi nazriye se hum in ki respect kartay bhi hain aur karni bhi chahiye.......
Arooj: Subah ki narazgi haq ba janib hai, mjhe yaad hai aap ne comments kiye thy k main Subahh se pochay beghair ye sab delete nahin kar sakti to phr aap ko nahin karnay chahiye thay.....ba haisiyat raqim e tehreer k ye un ka haq hai k koi bhi tarmeem ya tanseekh un ki ijazat k beghair na ki jaye....
Subah / Arooj: hum sab jo yahan aatay hain is forum per to apnay apnay satah e sha'oor ki numaindigi kartay hain, aur main samjhta hon k hum sub hi zi ilm hain aur is qism ki sarcastic jumlay hamain zaib nahin detay. aur sab se bari baat ye k hamari Shariyat e muttahira hamain Afu o Darguzar ka sabq deti hai to issay hamain hath se janay nahin dena chahiye.....
meri aap dono se aur tamam members se ye darkhwast hai k hum sab aik family hain, ager kisi se koi baat ho jaye to ussay darguzar karain aur apnay baray honay ka saboot dain.....dil ki bharas nikalnay k liye admin ne bohat acha tareeqa diya hai PM, PM karain aur sab kuch keh dain........
umeed karta hon k ye mouzoo mazeed behas ka talib na hoga aur issay yahin khatm kar k dilon main gunjaish paida ki jaye gi....
aap sab ki mohabbaton ka talib
Tabassum
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Post subject: Re: Dedicated to my Mother Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:13 am |
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faypal wrote: Ma tu hoti hi bhoht koobsorat hai, ager opper Khuda hai tu us zameen phir Ma bhajii hai. or ap na usi koobsorati sa Ma ki har aik ada ko beyan kia hai. Ma ka koyee naim-o-badal nai ho sakta...
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i am really sorry for that and ab se i will try k aisa misra ho
